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MailChimp – Should we stay or should we go?


We were recently faced with an email marketing challenge.  Did we need to find a new Email Service Provider?  Here is what we learned while evaluating ESPs and the decision we made.

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Our MailChimp Challenge
We were faced with an email challenge. For starters, we have used MailChimp since beginning our email marketing efforts four years ago. The vast majority of our email subscribers come from contests we run in social media and through website sign-ups (we offer a 10% online coupon when you sign-up for email). The database isn’t huge but it’s respectable.

So the challenge… In order to remain compliant to CASL anti-spam laws we keep track of exactly how we obtained the person’s email address in a group called “Origin.” So the origin might be “Mother’s day Facebook Contest 2015” or “Website Signup.” However, where we ran into problems was when we hit the maximum of 60 fields in the origin group. Uh-oh! How were we going to keep track of how we obtained people’s email addresses? We decided it was probably time to spread our wings and find a new ESP (Email Service Provider). Also in the back of our minds was the hope of collecting email addresses in our 100+ retail locations. It seemed like a good time to shop around.

New ESPs to Consider
We spent the better part of a week researching what we wanted in a new ESP and which vendors offered what solutions. We examined “The Sales Force Marketing Cloud“, formerly known as “Exact Target.” Our sales representative Adrian, at Bronto also gave us a demo of their ESP offer. Also under consideration was “InBox Marketer,” a local to us full-service marketing company with their own email platform. We briefly looked at “What Counts,” “Get Response,” and “Constant Contact,” too. We quickly learned that there are several different “tiers” of ESPs available from full service marketing agencies to the bare minimum.

Our Main Considerations:

  1. Could we solve our initial challenge that lead us down this road? Could the ESP handle unlimited numbers of “origins”? We quickly learned that all of the other platforms would include this type of data under the user’s profile vs. by having them added to a group. MailChimp appears to be unique in this vain.
  2. Was the creation of email a drag-and-drop method? While we have the capability to code html who knows what the future will hold and drag-and-drop is more user-friendly for everyone, including interns.
  3. What are the automation capabilities? – We want to get into sending “welcome series” emails so we wanted to ensure that any new ESP would include this function.
  4. Would we be able to scale? In the hopefully near future we hope to collect email addresses from customers in our stores at the point of purchase. Would the ESP be able to handle this extra data (e.g. what store we collected their email address from) and could we segment email campaigns based on their originating store?
  5. Cost considerations

A New ESP?
So the search began! We spent a week listening to sales pitches from the aforementioned companies and watching demos of the software each ESP was peddling. We got quotes and we considered some of them. Quickly we realized that all of the other ESPs could do #1, #2, and #3 on our wish-list; these were very standard. So it did not become a conversation about drag-and-drop, automation, and unique user fields. Rather, it became a conversation about scalability (#4) and cost (#5).   How big did we need to go and how much was it going to cost?

Flat Rate by # of Subs vs. Pay Per Send
I found it really surprising that most of the “big folks” in the ESP game do charge you per send.   For SalesForce (Marketing Cloud/Exact Target), InboxMarketer, and Bronto you had to pay BOTH a “licensing-usage fee” AND pay per send. Double whammy! I guess that’s how they make their money and make a great platform. But do we really need to pay twice for one service? Do we need to go with one of the BIG vendors?

What we Learned
Paying per send really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Why am I being penalized for growing my list? That IS my job to grow the list. But the bigger I grow it the more it’s going to cost me. I don’t like that. However, it did make me re-evaluate the metrics of “list size.” Is list-size really a good measurement? Probably not.   I used the segmentation option in MailChimp to discover that over half of our email list hasn’t opened any of the last 20 campaigns we have sent. A good number of those emails are probably being sent to dead email addresses that no-one even opens any more. So we pruned our list by deleting everyone who hadn’t opened our last 50 emails. Of course, it cut down the list size dramatically and we’re only now seeing the positive impact that’s having on other key (more important) metrics such as open rates and click rates (see here). So through the process of hating the idea of paying an ESP per send, we were actually able to clean our list up and dump the ‘dead weight.’ It was painful to lose a huge chunk of the list but in the end it was the right decision and gives us better measures of our list’s actual success.

The most impressbronto_automationive demo was given to us by Bronto – their visual on how to do automation blew our socks off (Just look at it!) However, it came with a VERY hefty price-tag that was far too high for us to even consider at this point. Sorry Bronto. 🙁

Upon discussions with our IT group the feeling was that we are month (or more) away from being able to collect email addresses at the POS in-store. So maybe that “robustness” we were looking for isn’t necessary yet? Why pay for advanced features NOW when we won’t need them for months down the road?



Stay with MailChimp?
During this research phase we did start poking around more in MailChimp and although we see the ‘tab’ every time we’re logged in we’ve never explored the “Automation” capabilities of MailChimp. There is also this “eCommerce 360” option that we had never explored. Apparently we can bring our online sales data into MailChimp which opens up a whole new realm of possibilities with personalized email marketing.

So the idea struck me that perhaps instead of changing ESPs we need to better utilize the features that are available to us in the platform that is already working for us.

Challenge Met?
But that pesky challenge, the limit of 60 fields for our origin, still had to be solved. Would we somehow add this data to the user’s profile instead of having it associated with their group? It didn’t seem that possible in the user interface. Could we somehow group more of the origins together (e.g. Mothers Day AND Father’s day contest entries together?) to free up some of the 60 spaces? This was a very short-term solution. But a solution was found! We decided upon exporting the entire list, including all the origin data to save for our reference if we the CASL police ever want to know where we got someone’s email address from. Then we added just one origin to reference the excel file export that contained the actual origin information. Then added everyone from the contests etc. to the excel export reference origin. This way we still have a record for the CASL police AND we can continue to use MailChimp for the time being.

The Future
Do we think MailChimp will be able to hold the extra info required when we start to collect email addresses in-store? Probably not. Even setting up “Store” as a group we’ll be limited to 60 stores and we have over 100 locations, so no, that will not work. However, as mentioned, we are months away from being able to add emails at store-level so we don’t need to worry about collecting store emails until we’re ready to actually do it. When that day comes we’ll have to begin at square one again and start researching more robust ESPs to see who can give us the best value for the money.

New Focus
We will now focus on using MailChimp to its fullest potential. We commit to keeping our list “clean” (removing dead weight regularly). The plan is to setup some automation – a series of “welcome emails” to introduce new subscribes to our list.   Hopefully we can change our sign-up button on our website to also include a pop-up when you first enter the site – we learned that that has great success rates – and of course it does, EVERY SITE is doing it now; this will help us grow our list while we wait for in-store email collection. We will start using the “birthday” field to send offers to people on their birthday. AND we will look into getting eCommerce 360 setup so we can feed our web sales data into MailChimp and make a plan for how to better connect with our paying customers. In short, we will use more of the features of MailChimp and work to personalize the experience for our email subscribers before we put on our big boy pants and join the big guys, like Bronto, and the like.


Mark’s Top Gift Picks




Go Leafs!!! This double walled travel mug is a great gift idea. This mug keeps your drinks either hot or cold so it’s suitable for the Monday morning drive to work or the Saturday afternoon at the beach. There is also plenty of room for personalization.



I use this pen during my office days. It’s rubber grip on the barrel makes the pen easy to hold and never does my hand slip down the pen. It’s lightweight and the coloured background makes the engraving of my name really stand out. If I can’t type it and need to write, this pen makes that better!


022497 8 PIECE BBQ SET

This 8 piece BBQ set is great for the cottage. It’s stainless steel utensils have big handles with a very long reach, so burning myself is a thing of the past. The additional kebob skewers work really well and clean up is a breeze. It’s case is great for storing underneath the bbq when not being used. A great gift for the outdoor chef, like me.



This machine washable throw makes a great focal point when placed on the back of any couch or chair. The amount of designs available make this item suitable for any occasion. For a new born baby or a couple celebrating a 50th Anniversary, this gift can be embroidered and personalized to mark any celebration. I gifted this to Sean as a housewarming gift.



When I am at the cottage or in my yard, I keep this tool with me at all times. With it’s leather pouch, it’s like having a tool box on your belt. From pliers to a knife blade, this very handy tool helps me do a multitude of jobs with it’s 11 functions.




Jane’s Top Gift Picks




This is by far my favourite bracelet.  I gave it to my mother-in law for her birthday a couple years ago and she still wears is all the time.  It looks very nice and it’s a good sturdy quality.  This is a good mother-in-law gift because it’s simple yet classy so if you’re not exactly sure of your MIL’s personal style this is a safe bet.



This writing set is gorgeous!  The subtle gold makes me feel royalty without being gaudy.  I really like the way the pen writes.  This makes a great gift for a graduation, retirement, new job, or pretty much anything.  Ask for your engraving to be “oxcidized” (which will turn it a darker colour) because it will look stunning!



I can’t resist this monkey… or even the ludybug, or cow.  They are all so cute.  But really the monkey is my favourite.  The ideas of things to embroider on his tummy are endless.  I think this makes a great baby gift or even child’s birthday gift.  Hey, even adults would love a fun plush anitmal with their name on the tummy (or…get well soon?)… I do!



This globe is awesome. Let me tell you why…. So you put the globe on it’s glass base, turn on the lights, and it spins! No batteries, no power cord; it just spins!  I am not kidding. I don’t how it works but it’s like science or something.  It’s a higher end gift so I would gift this to someone with a special birthday (like when my grandfather, a geography teacher, turns 80) or a perhaps as a retirement gift.  It’s very unique and the recipient is sure to love just it like I do.



And finally, the fortune cookie key chain is another super cute gift for many occasions.  The cookie actually opens up and has a piece of paper inside where you can write your own fortune. So cute! This is a great low cost inspirational and thoughtful gift.  I recently gave this gift to a friend who graduated from university. On the fortune I wrote: “You Are Going Places” and engraved her name on the charm. Super fun!




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